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Sierra West's Foss' Landing Construction Thread:
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The "finescale" Modeling Challenge:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4293

Onionskin Building Signs:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5574

Building Fences:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5772

Bar Mill's Majestic Hardware Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5134

Building a Foam Diorama Base for Majestic Hardware:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5843

Bar Mills' Waterfront Willy's Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6078

Challenge 2: Stations:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5330

Building a Lime Kiln:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6332

Harrington's Bar & Enzo's Pizza by FOS Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4876

Suds Bucket (Wannabee's Tavern) Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6735

SRMW's Rugg Manufacturing Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' Idaho Hotel Construction Thread:
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Rusty Stumps Scale Models Backwoods Water Tower Construction Thread:
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Sierra West's Tractor Repair Construction Thread:
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Sheds, Shacks, and Shantys:
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JL Innovative's Little Dutch Store Construction Thread:
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Alcohol and Dullcote: Modeling Hard Water Deposits:
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Water Tower Diorama:
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Challenge 3: Modeling the Prototype:
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Sierra West's Railroad Camp Construction Thread:
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Cockeyed Building (A Scratchbuilding Project):
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SRMW Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' O Scale Saulenas Tavern:
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Blair Line's Fred & Red's Cafe Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' Rusty's Radiator Repair Construction Thread:
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FOS Red Bird Taxi & Auto Repair Construction Thread:
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Challenge 4: Finishing It Off:
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C&O Sewell Station Construction Thread:
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SRMW's Sayle's Mill Construction Thread:
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SRMW's Martin's Machine Shop Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' Wicked Wanda's Construction Thread:
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Scratchbuilt Wooden Water Tank:
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Northeastern Scale Models' Sam Cahoon's Fishing Pier Construction
Thread:
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Laser Art Branchline's The Flour Mill Construction Thread:
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SRMW's Whitney & Bent Construction Thread:
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FSM's Skinner's Row Construction Thread:
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Karl Osolinski's McCloskey's Market:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8322

Challenge 5: Two-credit Cafe:
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Sierra West's Quincy Salvage Construction Thread #1:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5062

Chuck Diljak's Scratchbuilt Anthracite Mine:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7293

Campbell Scale Models' Brett's Brewery Construction Thread:
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Retro-tech's Finnian's Cannery Construction Thread:
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Downtown Deco's Addam's Ave., Part 1, Construction Thread:
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Surrey Custom Models' Bleeker Street Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' Booty Corner Construction Thread:
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FOS Forely & Sons Construction Thread:
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FSM's Stuffy's Brewery Construction Thread:
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Stoney Creek's B. Johnson Leather Works Construction Thread:
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Chuck Doan's O Scale Fordson Tractor:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9308

Using Rusty Stumps Scale Models' Corrugated Metal:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10120

Ed Fulasz' E.F. Smith & Co. Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9791

Scratchbashing a 2-Stall Engine House:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9620

FSM's Swakhammer's Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9908

Bar Mills' Earl's Oil Construction Thread:
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Downtown Deco's Mini-Challenge and Brick Wall Contest Thread:
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SCM's Morty's Market Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9380

FSM's Roadside Delights Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10427

John Knapp's Porky's Place - Sellios Building Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9500
 

Stoney Creek's Wills Saddlery & Leather Goods Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10509

Building a Jordan Kit, Part 1:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5877

Making Realistic Trees:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4873

FSM's Houligan's Alley Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7437

Vintage Vehicles Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10434

Downtown Deco's Addam's Avenue, Part II, Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11388

Sheepscot C&L Barge Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11124

Karl Osolinski's Snake River Station and Freight Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11169

Doug Coffey's Atlas Turntable Makeover:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11500

Karl Osolinski's Wood Burning Your Wood:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11601

AMB's Martinsburg Coal Mine Construction Thread:
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Marken's Building a Jordan Kit, Part 3:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6182

FOS Scale's JJ Hollender's Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5659

Downtown Deco's Addam's Avenue, Part 3, Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11714

Karl Scholz's E T Harley's Repair Shop:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10063

Magnuson Models' Union Avenue Freight Terminal Construction Thread:
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DPM's Aunt Eleanor's Construction Thread:
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Eddie Landreth's Building a Hay Barn Construction Thread:
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Marc Reusser's A Small Diorama in 5 Evenings or Less:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11728

Campbell Scale Models' Shed Under Construction and Double Handcar
House Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11492

Funaro & Camerlengo Car Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11297

Marken's How To: Excel for Signs:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11853

FOS Scale's QK7 Lucas Johnson Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11984

Mike Johnson's Locomotive Service Area Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11839

Peterpools' FSM Fox Run Rebuild:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11715

FOS Scale Fennimore Coal Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5065

Weathering Cedar Shingle Roofs:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12338

Branchline Trains' Dan's Welding and Fabrication Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12215

Challenge: Construct a Background Flat:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11223

hminky's Making Canvas Over Loads:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11741

Chuck Davis' Making Coal Chute Weights:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12275

Trestle - Curved and Descending - Theory and Construction:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11403

Chuck Davis' Modified Tichy Coaling Tower:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12429

Eddie Landreth's Billboard Challenge:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12427

Russ Panecki's Hudson Electric Signal Tower:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12170

Scott Povlot's Con-Cor Freight House Makeover:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12428

Evergreen Hills' Branchline Water Tank Construction Thread:
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Bar Mills' Mooney's Plumbing Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7464

FSM's Duffey's Coal Yard Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11485

Model Tech Studios' Roscos Engine Repair Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12286

Lee's Mt. Shasta Station Project:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12626

Bar Mills' Gritty McDuff's Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10904

Sierra West's Quincy Salvage, Part 2, Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9427

FOS Scale's Degraw's Poultry Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11381

Chuck Doan's "Large Scale Vacation" Project Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10409

John Reid's "How I Scratchbuild Dioramas" Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10377

SRMW's Wrisley Paper's Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10706

Gas Station Challenge:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11488

Rusty Stumps Scale Models' Ships Chandlers Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11143

FSM's Dexter's Dead End Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12588

Micro-Scale's Cushing & Bliss Construction Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12355

Eddie Landreth's "Building a Derelict Depot" Project Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11334

Scott Povlot's Alumilite Casting Thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12845

Peeling Paint: Discussion and How-to's:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11141

Weathering: Discussion and How-to's:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6753

Signs for Structures: Illustrations, Discussions, and How-to's:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9280

Water: Modeling Lakes, Rivers, Ponds, Streams, Waterfronts:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12449



 

 

From a number of threads here on RR Line. I tried to give credit where I could!
complied by John Kanakos ( RRL member )
CNJWS II, Custom Models
London, Ontario

Autumn Brown is a good general rust color, especially for seldom-used tracks or general weathering washes.
There's a gray that's almost identical to SP Lettering gray, which I can't think of the name for right now
(something "mist" maybe?). I use it for flat car decks, then weather with a black wash for excellent results.
Brown iron oxide and red iron oxide are both good to have on hand, as both looks like standard box
car/rolling stock, colors. Red iron oxide is great for industrial scenes -- kind of like red primer in color.
Candy bar brown is -close- to Tuscan, more like a weathered tuscan though. If anyone has anything closer
to tuscan, let me know.
I've airbrushed them with pretty good success. Definitely a 50-50 mix, but use thinner not water.

Decoart DA161 Graphite - Driftwood
Cremecoat Mudstone - Grime
Cremecoat Paynes Gray - Oily Black
Folkart Charcoal Gray - Grimy Black
Folkart Dark Gray - Darker Grimy Black
Folk Art's Barnwood craft paint (#936).
Ceramcoat name and number = Polly Scale name and number.
Midnight Blue 02114 = C & O Enchantment Blue 414260
Red Iron Oxide 02020 = Zinc Chrm. Primer 414293
Brown Iron Oxide 02023 = Milwaukee Road Maroon 414155
Quaker Grey 02057 = D & H Grey 414197
Antique Gold 02002 = CP Yellow 404058
Dark Jungle Green 02420 = MEC Pine Green 414188
Gamal Green 02120 = CNW Green 414188
Black 02506 = Engine Black 414290
Fjord Blue 02104 = B & O Royal Blue 414269
Hammered Iron 02094 = Pullman Green 414284
Paynes Grey 02512 = Grimey Black 414137
More colors, that are useful:
Sandstone 02402 = Close to Aged Concrete, but more yellow
Mudstone 02488 = More grey than Earth, more brown than Concrete
Western Sunset Yellow 025454 = More yellow than Sand
Black Green 02116 = Nada, zip, but a great color. Same for Avocado 02006.

First I use the 1 pint bottle of alcohol and I also use the 91% rather than the 70% as there seems to be less warping.
Second not all India Inks are the same.
I recommend that you use Higgins waterproof black India Ink.
I used another brand the first time and it did not mix well with the alcohol.
I have 4 different bottles
first has 1 tsp to the pint
second has 2 tsp to the pint
thrid has 3 tsp
forth has 4 tsp.
This gives me various shades to pick from.
The one with 4 tsp is quite dark.

I too have now several milk bottles of variations on Brett's staining soaking formula. As Mike pointed out
even Brett varies the formula from kit to kit by adjusting the color combination. I have also used the acrylics
and water or wiper fluid. I used wet water (adding a couple of drops of liquid detergent)in my last water
based batch after someone suggested it. And I think it improved the look and also has allowed me to keep
the mix in quart milk bottles to reuse. The wiper fluid doesn't need the soap.

I am dealing with the problem that Brett's mix doesn't remain a saturated solution, the pigment settling out. I
had not tried Nick's approach fingering the pigments but have tried a number of real and artificial sponges.
For me I keyed on Brett's description of blotches. When I rubbed the boards with a cloth I got a more even
covering. By dipping the sponge into the settled solution and patting down the boards I got a more irregular
blotchy coloring. You can see several different color pigment.

I've built quite a few Campbell kits and I really enjoyed them. I did exactly the same thing with them that I do with
any other chunk of wood. After deciding the colors to use, I put a coat of Floquil Grime and let it dry about 24
hours...then I apply the color stain I've chosen and, finally, the A&I wash and never had a problem.

Karl Osolinski
Berkley, M
I

The Sweet & Sour solution is vinegar and steel wool. I'm not sure of the exact proportions because I don't
know that there ARE any. Basically you put some vinegar in a small bottle, and add some torn-up pieces of
steel wool -- the finer the wool and the smaller the pieces the better. I'd say the volume of steel wool should
equal half of the volume of the vinegar, but that's my guesstimate.

Then wait about a week or two for the acid in the vinegar to completely dissolve the steel wool. When
you're done the solution you have is "Sweet and Sour."

Then you paint it on (or dunk) the stripwood, set it on Saran Wrap and let it dry.

I've made the Sweet and Sour solution and I love how it simulates rust... because it is.
The "sweet and sour" weathering method was actually invented by Wayne Hume of Vintage Reproductions and
written up in an article in Railroad Model Craftsman, January,1986, authored by Dwayne Easterling and Jim Wild.

To one pint of regular white household vinegar (5% acidity) put in one piece of #0000 steel wool (does not say to
rip it up, but I did when I made it) cap it very loosely and let it sit for three to seven days. Mine took a lot longer -
well over 2 weeks.

The article is filled with great ideas on using the mix. One that I use is dip my pounce wheel into it and then make
your nailheads - you get a great rusty looking nailhead.

Anyway, it is quite a long article and even has an explanation of the chemistry that makes it work written by the
great Wayne Wesolowski.

Karl Osolinski
Berkley, M
I

The best stuff for doing stucco has been given to us by Karl O. The product is called Deco Art Sand stone. I buy the neutral beige stock #DSD70. If you need to do any stucco this is the stuff to use.

Before beginning construction, I soak them for up to 24 hours in a stain made from very dilute acrylic paints. To approx. 20 oz. of water in a jar, I normally add the following: 1/4-1/2 tsp. India ink, 1 tsp Polly  Roof Brown, 1 tsp. Polly Grimy Black or Oily Black, 1-1/2 tsps. of Polly RR Tie Brown. (If I want the wood to take on a more reddish appearance, I cut back on the browns and add approx. 1 tsp. Apple Barrel Burnt Sienna. If I want the wood to be grayer, I cut back on the RR Tie Brown and increase the Grimy Black.) I then close the jar and shake well to thoroughly mix the pigments and water. Next, I put all of the stripwood into one or more ziplock bags and pour several ounces of the stain into the bag. The stripwood is left in the stain for up to 24 hours. I simply turn the bag (s) over every 4-6 hours to keep the pigments from settling out too much. Afterward, I remove the wood and let it dry thoroughly on newspaper and/or paper towels.

After the wood has dried, I impart texture to it by scratching it with a wire scratch "pen" that I got from MicroMark. Sometimes I also use a dull razor saw on the wood. And I randomly split boards with my knife or dig "knotholes" with the knife point.

Finally, if I want the wood to look really old and weathered, I dust it with Rembrandt Raw Umber and Gold Ochre chalks that I powder and apply with a soft brush.

Other folks may have differing opinions/experiences, and that's fine.

1. If using acrylic paint for the stain and stripwood (instead of sheetwood), I prefer to use water instead of alcohol.
Alcohol, in my experience, evaporates too quickly and causes the acrylic paint to coagulate. I mix my stain, put the wood in zipper-type bags, pour the stain in, and then turn the bags every few hours for up to 24 hours.

2. I don't think there's any real advantage to using windshield washer fluid instead of water when staining bulk quantities of stripwood. I tried it a couple of times and could see no/little difference. Windshield washer fluid might be cheap, but water is usually free. Beyond that, the paints I use to make stains mix equally well with one or the other.

3. I don't think the brand matters. Most of that stuff seems to be the same - just a different label.

4. If I'm brush staining wood with black alcohol, I generally use real India ink mixed in the alcohol. It's "permanent" and "water resistent." For stains that I'm mixing (like the recipe Jesper quoted above), I use "water soluble" black ink (Higgins is one such brand), because I'm using water for the base.

5. The longer you leave the stripwood in a water/acrylic stain, the more color it will take on. For variations in colors, I sometimes pull some of the wood from the stain after about 12-14 hours and some more after about 16-18 hours.
Most of the wood gets left in the stain for about 24 hours, though. And sometimes, after the wood has dried, I will brush black alcohol on several pieces for additional darkening. Then I mix all of the wood together and use it randomly in construction.

The truth is, I think there are as many different ways to stain/color wood in modeling as there are people who do it.
Sometimes it seems to me that we spend way too much time searching for the "perfect" way to weather wood. And I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to that. One of these days I may just go back to plain old black alcohol. It works about as well as anything I've come up with in recent years.


How to paint /weather Campbell shingles. Heres how to color your shingles.

1 Paint them with Floquil earth solvent based. Allow to dry.

2 Apply I&A wash allow to dry.

3 Drybrush with antique white and rust.

4 Thats about it. If done right they will look like a million bucks.

Karl S.

Textured rust. I make a slurry of alcohol and and 2-4 "rust" colored chalk powders. I normally used a #2 round red
sable brush to apply the slurry, although I also use other sizes and even toothpicks at times to apply it. The alcohol
evaporates quickly but "fixes" the chalk powder in place.


STAINS!
Problem : Many of the older kits I have (FSM, SSI, Master Creations, Sierra West) contain construction manuals that
specifically state to use Floquil stain (or Flo-Stain) colors. I used these stains years ago, and found them to be
excellent. Since these stains are no longer available .....

Goal : To find stains that are similar in color and properties to the old Flo-Stains: Good even coverage on wood, nice
flat finish, and doesn't cause wooden siding to warp (most of these older kits contain wooden siding).

Attempts : I've tried a few products so far, some were very close to filling my needs, but usually fell short in 1 or 2
areas (see my old message above).

Additional Product Test Report

Tandy & Fiebing Leather Dyes - I purchased 4 Tandy colors and 4 Fiebling colors from
1. www.TandyLeather.com (nice reliable source). After trying out these products, I really felt they could have
been GREAT, but I was really turned off by the colors. Many of the colors (tan, light brown, med brown) had a
strong bright-orange/bright-rust shade to them, and the Buckskin & Beige colors were almost yellow. The product
gave extremely great coverage on wood, but did leave a slight shinny finish. I'm pretty sure that somebody with
more experience in color mixing, could come up with some nice colors (maybe by mixing in various colors of inks?).
NOTE: I also tried the "Gray" color (with hopes of making a "Driftwood"), but the gray pigment would almost
instantly settle to the bottom of the bottle (into a big unusable glob) everytime I tried to thin down the color. I tried
using the Tandy Thinner, the Fiebing Thinner, DioSol, Alcohol and even water ... none worked, and instantly ruined
the product.

The reason I'm posting again ...........

1) I was lucky to find some bottles of old Flo-Stain from Link & Pin Hobbies ( www.linkandpinhobbies.com )
awhile back. These bottles were very old, and the color pigment has totally settled. I also have some old bottles of
regular Floquil paints (from early 80's), and their pigment had totally settled also. The little gears started rolling in
my head!

2) I measured the bottles of old paints and stains, and noted the following:

Old Flo-Stains
DioSol at top of bottle = 12/8" high.
Settled pigment at bottom of bottle = 3/8" high.
Ratio = 4 dioSol : 1 pigment

Old Floquil Paints
DioSol at top of bottle = 7/8" high.
Settled pigment at bottom of bottle = 7/8" high.
Ratio = 1 dioSol : 1 pigment

3) I decided to try using Floquil paints, thinned down with DioSol, to create my own Flo-Stains. Using the above
ratio information, I figured: 1 part Floquil Paint (1:1 ratio) + 3 parts of DioSol = 4:1 ratio of old Flo-Stains.

4) I used some small glass eye-droppers from MicroMark, and was happy to see that (40) eye-dropper "loads" filled-
up a 1oz Floquil bottle almost perfectly.

RESULTS : Can I get an AMEN please

The results were exactly what I've been searching for. I wanted to share my above findings with everybody because
I'm feeling so happy right now. I plan to upload a picture of the "color-chips" in about 1 week (I had to take the
digital camera back to work). In the meantime, here's the colors I've mixed-up so far:

Floquil Rust (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Looks like cedar to me, I'm thinking it would be nice for buildings found
around a sawmill.

Floquil Oxide Red (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Looks like FloStain "Mahogany".

Floquil SO Freight Car Brown (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Looks like FloStain "Cherry".

Floquil Earth (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Looks like thinned down Floquil Earth, maybe "Natural Pine".

Floquil Rail Brown (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Nice brown with hint of green, looks like Hickory to me.

Floquil Roof Brown (1 part) + Floquil Rust (1 part) + DioSol (6 parts) = Looks like FloStain "Rosewood".

Floquil Roof Brown (1 part) + DioSol (3 parts) = Nice general brown color.

I also made 6 variations of Floquil CN Gray (with same 1:3 ratio), some with a dash of "Grime" or "Weathered
Black", which created a nice range of "Driftwood" variations.

Marker Magic, Bill Alspach, October 89 RMC, p. 93. A 3 page article on coloring and weathering stripwood using
artist's felt tip markers and Dio-sol. The methods and materials described here are very similar to those used by
Karl O. and other forum members

Here's the way I do my walls:
A: Cut all window and door openings.
1: Stain all walls with a gray stain. I use Floquil driftwood (discontinued)but grime will work almost as well.

2: Have before u the color of your chioce and clean thinner. Dip into the thinner then the paint and vice
versa going for more pait or thinner whci ever you need. The idea is to kinda apply the paint as a stain of the
gray allowing the gray to show through.

3: Now its time to do bracing. Use plenty I use 1/8 X 1/8.

4: Put in your nail holes with your pounce wheel and loosen the amout of clpboard that u want to and apply
A & I stain. If you want you can apply a heavey book on wall till dry this will minimize warping.

5: Apply all signs and advertising you want on the walls.

6: Dry brush entire wal with antique white.

7: Paint windows & doors let dry and apply A & I stain. When dry dry brush all windows and door with
antique white.

8: Apply window glass & shades and or curtains.

"Wet water" as many call it is adding a couple drops of dishwashing soap into your water.
It takes the surface tension of water away. Its usually recommended when doing your ballast so it does not
float away.
For decal signs - I'll leave that to others.
If its only paper signs, I make the sign as thin as possible, and soak it in 50:50 Elmers white glue and water.
Then I use a popsicle stick (or finger) and push it into the siding to give it the "painted-on" appearance.

DRIFTWOOD

the following recipe: to 20 oz. of water add 2 tsp. Apple Barrel "Country Gray," 1 tsp. Apple Barrel
"Dolphin Gray," 1/2 tsp. Polly "Grimy Black" or "Tarnished Black," and 1/2 tsp. Apple Barrel "Raw
Umber." This creates a stain that you can soak stripwood in for about 12-24 hours. If it's not gray-brown
enough for your tastes/requirements after having dried, lightly brush the strips with some black alcohol. I do
not recommend trying to paint or soak scribed siding with this mix, however, because of the resulting warpage